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Post by olskool on Jun 28, 2019 19:11:26 GMT -5
here is mine. I think a full stock is really something people really hate or really love. I love them! a couple on here or Husqvarna the ones on the log. one is a 30-06 from 1959, the tiger stripe one is 7mm mauser from 1958 there are a couple of rugers on the log, tang safety's from 1984-85, one is 243 the other is 250 sav. the one on the wheel is a rare H&R ultra rifle model 301 in 243 they all shoot very good. the only one I haven't killed a deer with yet is the 7mm,,,,,,,,,,,
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Post by bushog on Jun 28, 2019 19:36:43 GMT -5
Love 'em!
Blaser K95 Stutzens and Mannlicher-Schönauers!
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Post by Encore64 on Jun 28, 2019 19:42:07 GMT -5
Have three...
CZ 550 in 9.3x62, CZ 452 22 Magnum and a Ruger #1 RSI in 6.5x55...
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Post by leftysixgun on Jun 28, 2019 19:44:00 GMT -5
Ruger No1 RSI in 7x57, love it! Maybe some pictures a bit later
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Post by coldtriggerfinger on Jun 28, 2019 23:49:19 GMT -5
A CZ 550 Medium action 20" barrel Mannlicher stock. 9.3x62 Mauser. Really nice little rifle that I wish I still had. However the stock acted up in the rain. I would like to get a fiberglass Mannlicher stock for my 375 Whelen AI. Built on a 98 Mauser action.
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Post by jgt on Jun 29, 2019 8:57:09 GMT -5
They would not be my choice, but it's great if you have a rifle you like.
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Post by bushog on Jun 29, 2019 9:10:34 GMT -5
I've always wanted a No. 1 international.....
What kind of accuracy do you guys get with them?
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Post by Rimfire69 on Jun 29, 2019 9:44:48 GMT -5
Love them, I have all 3 sizes of CZ and a few others I've rounded up over the years. Bushog, my #1 RSI. in 7x57 has made 1"@ 100yds with select hand loads, but the most fun we've had with it has been with Trailboss and 150gr hornady flat base and open sights. Full stock carbine lenght rifles scream to be shot open sights as the early originals would have been.
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Post by Longhunter1750 on Jun 29, 2019 12:31:05 GMT -5
I only have two but I love full stock rifles. One is a CZ .22lr And one is an English rifle in .30-06, dont have a pic of the .30-06 and cant think of the maker right off. Hertzers??? maybe.
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Post by olskool on Jun 29, 2019 12:59:48 GMT -5
Love them, I have all 3 sizes of CZ and a few others I've rounded up over the years. Bushog, my #1 RSI. in 7x57 has made 1"@ 100yds with select hand loads, but the most fun we've had with it has been with Trailboss and 150gr hornady flat base and open sights. Full stock carbine lenght rifles scream to be shot open sights as the early originals would have been. I agree I would love to have one with open sights,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Post by olskool on Jun 29, 2019 13:01:55 GMT -5
I've always wanted a No. 1 international..... What kind of accuracy do you guys get with them? I will have to say mine all shoot great! my 7mm Husqvarna had vertical stringing when I got it. I had to put a little pressure under the front of the barrel about 2in. from the muzzle, that took care of it. the 30-06 Husqvarna is a tack driver! the H&R ultra rifle is also, but from the factory these ultra rifles had a Douglas premium grade barrel, that dose help. but I think the inaccuracy stories of full stock guns are what is inaccurate,,,,,,,,,,,
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Post by z1r on Jun 29, 2019 13:55:06 GMT -5
Mauser type "S" made in April 1943, cal. 7x57mm. One of the last Commercial Mausers made: Husqvarna .30-06 Another Husqvarna. A model 46 that I am restocking.
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Post by bushog on Jun 29, 2019 14:07:07 GMT -5
I've always wanted a No. 1 international..... What kind of accuracy do you guys get with them? I will have to say mine all shoot great! my 7mm Husqvarna had vertical stringing when I got it. I had to put a little pressure under the front of the barrel about 2in. from the muzzle, that took care of it. the 30-06 Husqvarna is a tack driver! the H&R ultra rifle is also, but from the factory these ultra rifles had a Douglas premium grade barrel, that dose help. but I think the inaccuracy stories of full stock guns are what is inaccurate,,,,,,,,,,, Meant accuracy of the Ruger RSIs....
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Post by bradshaw on Jul 4, 2019 8:06:22 GMT -5
here is mine. I think a full stock is really something people really hate or really love. I love them! a couple on here or Husqvarna the ones on the log. one is a 30-06 from 1959, the tiger stripe one is 7mm mauser from 1958 there are a couple of rugers on the log, tang safety's from 1984-85, one is 243 the other is 250 sav. the one on the wheel is a rare H&R ultra rifle model 301 in 243 they all shoot very good. the only one I haven't killed a deer with yet is the 7mm,,,,,,,,,,, ***** olskool.... this is a good thread and anyone been around Mausers knows you present some fine examples. HusqvarnaThe Husqvarna variant of Peter Paul Mauser’s masterpiece strikes a particularly high note. While a small receiver ring 1898, steel and heat treatment are to my reckoning an epiphany of metallurgical correctness for this design. The bolt borrows Winchester’s Model 70 ejector cut under the left locking lug,----instead of through it----for added strength, closing @ 12 o’clock, where the receiver ring is strongest. Husqvarna barrels I’ve had measured 1;12 twist in .30-06 and 7x57mm Mauser. Very fine accuracy nevertheless, sharper than Browning’s 98’s made by Fabrique Nationale. (I use flat base bullets for slow twists. For the Husqvarna 7x57 with 1:12, 20-1/2-inch barrel, the unassuming Hornady 139 Spire Point, seated over (memory says 50.4 grains) IMR 4350, a deer slayer supreme, woodchuck accuracy with barely any recoil. Proportions of the Husqvarna pistol grip are the best ever put on a bolt action rifle----with the carbine, you can one-hand the carbine all day. At the flick in your eye it snaps like lightning. Fabrique NationaleHarrington & Richardson marketed the Supreme on the FN commercial 98 with one of the best BOX TRIGGERS of all time----all milled and made by SAKO. Never learned who made the stock, I think Stile in Italy, although it may have been Fajen..... who knows? Again, brilliant proportions for a jump gun. Unfortunately, leastwise in my experience, H&R picked cigarette butts out of the gutter in selecting a barrel. Same modus operandi followed by Sears, Western Field, Colt and others which screwed a jack handle to the FN receiver. Is it any wonder FN wouldn’t countenance another name on their receiver? Sturm, Ruger Model 77 InternationalI shot a prototype M77 International .308 Winchester in Bill Ruger’s back yard. Old Bill’s mustache tweaks as he hefts his lightweight Mannlicher carbine. Bill’s rheumatoid arthritis curtailed cherished fine motor skill in his hands and it was easier to shift gears in his 1929 Bentley tourer, one of his Rugermobiles, or a Ferrari, than to stroke a bolt action or ear back the hammer on a .357 Maximum. Nevertheless, the M77 International represents Bill’s respect for fair chase----traipsing through woods armed with short little Mannlicher carbine to approach hooved game and place a decisive shot. Bill Ruger loved the Mannlicher-Schoenauer spool magazine, and the Savage M99 spool magazine. Shortly, I received a pair of the first M77 Internationals, one .308, the other .243 Winchester. 18-1/2” barrels, very thin, both 1:10 twist. Sighted both with the elegant Ruger irons, then slapped Leupolds on ‘em. Both shot great, the .243 5x5 under 2” @ 165 yards, the .308 5x5 to 2.5”. Bill Ruger, Jr., paid a visit to Vermont, where we shot the Internationals out the window of a friend’s house, and on a hunt with Bill, Jr., he carried a M77 International 18-1/2” in .30-06. POI and MannlicherIf there ever was a meter to detect a difference in VIBRATION NODE between components, it is a Mannlicher stock with muzzle cap. Once sighted, any change of load shifts Point of Impact. and actual load development becomes more sensitive with Mannlicher cap. My experience with Mannlicher-Schoenauer is limited to shooting, not tinkering; these old carbines so carefully assembled with air-aged, slow-growth walnut, may prove the exception. Bedded capI epoxy-bedded the Ruger caps to muzzle and wood, which hauled bullets in tight. Yet, sensitivity to load remains. You don’t run out of ammo on a hunt, to replace it at the store without sighting-in. No deer deserves that wreckage. The M77 International Mannlicher Carbine barrel is THIN. Which nearly inspired me to glass bed & free float it in a regular stock, just to compare with the Mannlicher. Didn’t do it. Were I to gamble, I’d bet on a pencil barrel in the Mannlicher----with BEDDED MUZZLE CAP. The Mannlicher lives by its own rule. Thanks for a good piece, David Bradshaw
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Post by Burnston on Jul 4, 2019 9:34:57 GMT -5
I only have two but I love full stock rifles. One is a CZ .22lr And one is an English rifle in .30-06, dont have a pic of the .30-06 and cant think of the maker right off. Hertzers??? maybe. Very educational thread. Never having owned one, I've frequently borne witness to those conversations regarding the inaccuracies of full-stocked rifles, reasons ranging from "barrel-binding" to too much weight in front. I've never placed in faith in these complaints, given the literal hundred+ years armorers spent producing full-stocked rifles for militaries around the world. Longhunter- When I was in college, (not so long ago,) I had to go into town to find work to pay my way through it and I ended up at a sad little clothing store called Hollister. That said, I have to admire your squirrel hauler, which I can only assume is a re-purposed Hollister belt. It makes me very happy to see this place that stole pieces of my soul over four years has given back to the hunting community in some way.
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