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Post by AdamARM on May 21, 2019 13:14:44 GMT -5
Greetings,
Over the next few months, I hope to pick up my first rifle. I would like to find a 357 to match my revolver of choice. I started looking at the Ruger 77 (357) as an option.
As I understand it, lever 357s can be somewhat picky when it comes to ammo selection. Are bolt 357 rifles (such as the Ruger 77) less picky, and less prone to jam then the common lever options (Rossi and Marlin)? Do bolt 357 tend to allow a greater range of bullet shapes/brands?
-Adam
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Post by magnumwheelman on May 21, 2019 14:30:23 GMT -5
probably yes & yes... I will admit I have less bolt action pistol caliber rifles than lever actions... I would hate to think we scared you off the lever guns... because they are super fun... in reality just about any 357 bullet that will work in a standard revolver, will work in a lever gun... ( can't think of any long or pointy bullets that would fit in a cylinder, yet not feed in a normal lever gun ) I'm sure there might be something special out there, but would likely not work well in a revolver for either the length of the cylinder or the standard twist rates www.gunbroker.com/item/803246448www.gunbroker.com/item/789269357www.gunbroker.com/item/813817515www.gunbroker.com/item/810867988I'll admit i've not looked at 357 rifles lately... this is a good mix, & if I were buying one of these, thinking I'd go for the Henry Big Boy lever gun... |
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Post by boolitdesigner on May 21, 2019 15:58:49 GMT -5
Any problems you would have would involve the overall loaded length or the nose configuration............. these are common to each type you seek.
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Post by taffin on May 21, 2019 16:10:46 GMT -5
Greetings, Over the next few months, I hope to pick up my first rifle. I would like to find a 357 to match my revolver of choice. I started looking at the Ruger 77 (357) as an option. As I understand it, lever 357s can be somewhat picky when it comes to ammo selection. Are bolt 357 rifles (such as the Ruger 77) less picky, and less prone to jam then the common lever options (Rossi and Marlin)? Do bolt 357 tend to allow a greater range of bullet shapes/brands?
-Adam
NONE ARE PRONE TO JAM IF ONE USES PROPER AMMUNITION AND OPERATES THE BOLT/LEVER WITH SOME AUTHORITY. TREAT ANY PISTOL CALIBER LEVERGUN GENTLY AND IT WILL JAM. FINDING A BOLT GUN IN .357 WILL NOT BE EASY AS RUGER DROPPED THEM.I HAVE.357 MAGNUM LEVERGUNS FROM MARLIN, ROSSI, WINCHESTER, BROWNING, AND MIROKU AS WELL AS THE RUGER M77/357. ALL RELIABLE; ALL ACCURATE. |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2019 22:27:22 GMT -5
After my recent experience with Ruger's 77/44, honestly, I'd say it is overpriced for the quality level you get. My recommendation would be to get a good levergun. I'm partial to Winchester.  I shot a friend's new Winchester (Jap) short rifle chambered in 357 earlier today. It is a very high end, impressive piece. It is one of the prettiest leverguns I've seen to date. |
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Post by hombre on May 22, 2019 10:26:52 GMT -5
I have had tons of fun with my Marlin 1894C, it feeds full power magnums and 38 special loads with ease. Try to be patient and find a pre-safetyversion, are they costly? YES but will appreciate in value and fun factor in the long run....JMHO
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Post by AdamARM on May 22, 2019 11:00:19 GMT -5
Try to be patient and find a pre-safetyversion, are they costly? YES but will appreciate in value and fun factor in the long run....JMHO Is there a difference in quality of the pre-saftey versions? Or do you just dislike the safety due to appearance/distraction/etc?
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Post by hombre on May 22, 2019 11:14:54 GMT -5
Try to be patient and find a pre-safetyversion, are they costly? YES but will appreciate in value and fun factor in the long run....JMHO Is there a difference in quality of the pre-saftey versions? Or do you just dislike the safety due to appearance/distraction/etc?
Is there a difference in quality? ...........I think so, mine is very accurate at 50 yards. I hate the cross bolt safety, and so do many others...JMHO Mine was built in the early 1980's, it has laser type accuracy with it's preferred load. |
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Post by taffin on May 23, 2019 8:59:46 GMT -5
Try to be patient and find a pre-safetyversion, are they costly? YES but will appreciate in value and fun factor in the long run....JMHO Is there a difference in quality of the pre-saftey versions? Or do you just dislike the safety due to appearance/distraction/etc?
OUR FAMILY HAS SEVERAL .357 MARLINS DATING FROM 1969 TO ONE BOUGHT TWO MONTHS AGAO. THE LATTER HAD AN 8# TRIGGER PULL BUT GOOD SOLID GUN. NO DIFFERENCE IN ACCURACY WITH ANY OF THESE OVER A 50 YEAR PERIOD. ALL WILL DELIVER ONE-HOLE GROUPS AT 50 YARDS WITH GAS CHECKED BULLETS #358156 AND #358.200. |
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Post by mo on Jun 19, 2019 17:17:37 GMT -5
In my experience with the Marlin 1894 and the Ruger 77 in 357 I'd say ammo selection is more limited with the Marlin.
That being said, both rifles are finicky about what they shoot well. Both tend to like heavy for caliber bullets. The Ruger 77/357 will feed a greater variety of bullet shapes, especially when loaded in 38 spl cases, though I've not found many loads under 180 grains to shoot well. The Ruger really likes the Lee 200 grain RF loaded in 38 spl cases over 2400 and Unique. 1,000-1300 fps.
My Marlin, a JM ballard rifled much prefers 357 length ammo. Will not feed SWC (My 45 Colt 1894 will eat anything). A friends older 357 Marlin shoots much better and if I recall correctly it has the Microgroove rifling.
If I had to choose I'd take the Ruger. It's lighter. It's more accurate than MY 1894.
The Winchester clones I've seen all were good shooters.
YMMV
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Post by AdamARM on Jun 24, 2019 11:47:57 GMT -5
In my experience with the Marlin 1894 and the Ruger 77 in 357 I'd say ammo selection is more limited with the Marlin. That being said, both rifles are finicky about what they shoot well. Both tend to like heavy for caliber bullets. The Ruger 77/357 will feed a greater variety of bullet shapes, especially
I have heard the rotary mag has problems feeding the last bullet. Have you had issues with that? Or know how wide spread this issue is?
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Post by mo on Jun 24, 2019 15:59:42 GMT -5
I have four magazines for my 77/357 all work great. I've run over length heavies 1.660" out of the mag without issue. I don't have any full wad cutter loads to test but all things 38 have run fine too.
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Post by Rimfire69 on Jun 25, 2019 6:25:46 GMT -5
Both my 77/44 and 77/357 have worked flawlessly, 4 mags for the little one and 2 for the big one and never a hitch out of any of them.
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I shot a friend's new Winchester (Jap) short rifle chambered in 357 earlier today. It is a very high end, impressive piece. It is one of the prettiest leverguns I've seen to date.
