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Post by jringo8769 on Nov 28, 2018 10:15:21 GMT -5
Well as some of you know i am building a Elmer Keith Homage from a 1962 Ruger Blackhawk 44 mag 6.5" i got with three holes drilled almost thru the barrel from poor gunsmithing...the gun is like new...but i am finding a really like the idea of a brass grip frame and almost went with the super blackhawk factory grip frame...but i have a set of grips i absolutely love and i would love to find a brass frame that is like the Colt SAA or is the XR3 one...i have toyed with the idea of finding a newer Stainless one and have that brass plated...i can not find any info about the Power ones i think the name is...they are supposed to be the best Colt SAA conversion ones...any help will so be appreciated....thanks in advance God Bless,John here is what i am starting with....bought this last Easter Weekend too... and here is the barrel i took off of it too....what a mess
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Post by bobwright on Nov 28, 2018 10:52:25 GMT -5
Brass grip frames are a hit-or-miss proposition from what I understand. Ron Power does supply them, but from what I've read they require a great deal of fitting. There was some pistolero who modified the grip straps from a Uberti, but this required plugging up the screw holes for the frame screws and re-drilling, and some brazing to make the mainspring work. On the Rugerforum.com, in the classifieds, there are often brass grip frames offered for sale. Expect large dollars. The bottom line is, they are out there. Chase them with lots of ca$h and expend a lot of elbow grease! But, in the long run, if you like the look, the results are worth it! Bob Wright
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Post by kings6 on Nov 28, 2018 11:03:55 GMT -5
For the Colt style two piece grip frame and quality of construction, go with the Powers brass grip frame. Yes they take fitting but at least you know it will match up once it is fit. Like Bob said, some of the other versions can be real hit and miss on hole alignment etc.
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Post by 2 Dogs on Nov 28, 2018 12:17:25 GMT -5
There is also the No5 style grip frames. I have an extra Clements Old Model No5 backstrap. If you are interested PM me your contact information and I will send you some pics.
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Post by warhawk on Nov 28, 2018 13:09:34 GMT -5
I have a 1960 vintage flat top 44 that was customized by a previous owner. It has a stainless grip frame from an Old Army. goo.gl/images/H748dr
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Post by princeout on Nov 28, 2018 15:00:52 GMT -5
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Post by ncrobb on Nov 28, 2018 20:27:20 GMT -5
I don’t mean to derail but how do the brass frames hold up long term under heavy loads?
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Post by kings6 on Nov 28, 2018 20:57:32 GMT -5
John Linebaugh puts them on 475s and 500 Linebaugh’s he builds. I have a brass bisley on my 475 from John and no problems.
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Post by bobwright on Nov 28, 2018 21:04:14 GMT -5
I don’t mean to derail but how do the brass frames hold up long term under heavy loads? This 1971 vintage Super Blackhawk stands at over 17,000 rounds fired through it, mostly full power (or better) magnum ammunition: The base pin latch has been the only failure. Bob Wright
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Post by bradshaw on Nov 28, 2018 21:09:23 GMT -5
I don’t mean to derail but how do the brass frames hold up long term under heavy loads? ***** Beaucoup rounds through my brass grip frame Super Blackhawk, with ram loads I would not subject a Model 29 to, indicate the brass grip frame loosens screws more slowly than the same loads from a SBH with steel grip frame. The traditional Peacemaker-style grip frame is particularly stable at absorbing the shock & vibration of magnum recoil. It may be that screw heads pinch brass more effectively. The Speed of Sound travels about 15,000 feet per second in brass, about 19,000 fps in steel, a difference perhaps less consequential than a difference in friction. (To appreciate the high speed of sound waves, the VOD----Velocity of Detonation----of sharp nitro dynamite runs 18-19,000 fps; nitroglycerine 25,000 fps, det cord 23,300 fps, C4 25-27,000 fps.) The Colt conceived grip frame absorbs recoil without imposing sheer on screws. Providing the parts mate up, with screws kept tight, I anticipate the revolver is ready to loosen many wrists, while the pistol feels no pain at all. David Bradshaw
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Post by ncrobb on Nov 28, 2018 21:14:00 GMT -5
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Post by jringo8769 on Nov 29, 2018 10:43:44 GMT -5
well thank u all for the help....here is what sparked my interest.... and now i am thinking of going this way... here is what it looks like now... i want to use these grips...they are from a SAA and just mocked in place
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Post by jringo8769 on Nov 29, 2018 10:45:15 GMT -5
I have a 1960 vintage flat top 44 that was customized by a previous owner. It has a stainless grip frame from an Old Army. goo.gl/images/H748drwell that is a beauty...like the stainless grip frame...i could have that brass plated...thank u for sharing it
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Post by jringo8769 on Nov 29, 2018 10:46:08 GMT -5
Brass grip frames are a hit-or-miss proposition from what I understand. Ron Power does supply them, but from what I've read they require a great deal of fitting. There was some pistolero who modified the grip straps from a Uberti, but this required plugging up the screw holes for the frame screws and re-drilling, and some brazing to make the mainspring work. On the Rugerforum.com, in the classifieds, there are often brass grip frames offered for sale. Expect large dollars. The bottom line is, they are out there. Chase them with lots of ca$h and expend a lot of elbow grease! But, in the long run, if you like the look, the results are worth it! Bob Wright well thank u for the pics and more inspiration...truly appreciate it...
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Post by jringo8769 on Nov 29, 2018 10:47:34 GMT -5
There is also the No5 style grip frames. I have an extra Clements Old Model No5 backstrap. If you are interested PM me your contact information and I will send you some pics. well i am not familiar with the No5 grip frame...i would love to see some pics...thank u so much...God Bless,John
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