mooshoo
.30 Stingray
same as before except retired
Posts: 181
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Post by mooshoo on Nov 24, 2018 12:13:38 GMT -5
need a good reduced load for my 30/06 and hornady short jackets, just for plinking and jackrabbits.
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mooshoo
.30 Stingray
same as before except retired
Posts: 181
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Post by mooshoo on Dec 2, 2018 16:22:03 GMT -5
i went with 45.0gr with 4831 imr powder just need to go shoot when the weather permits
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Post by azshaun on Dec 9, 2018 16:15:29 GMT -5
leverguns.com/articles/paco/small_charges.htmFrom Paco Kelly On reduced loads for the 30-06: In the 30-06 there is one bullet I have to hold out as excellent in every 06 I have ever owned...as well as in other class cartridge sizes....Lyman’s 308284 (it’s probably called 311284 now with the latest number changes) at 210 grains in #2 alloy. 10 grains of Red Dot will go around the magic 1200 fps..and is a deadly little load without recoil and thunder. It gives nearly 700 ft.lbs of muzzle energy, a nice 100 to 125 yards training and small game hunting load for youngsters. For those that use Green Dot 12 grains will match the Red Dot load...and 13 grains of Unique will go 1500 (as of general interest the pressure is close to 40,000 psi). 28 grains of 4759 will give 2000 fps and over, way over 1800 ft.lbs of muzzle punch. For a full load try around 50 to 52 grains of IMR4350 (IMR..H is faster) for the magic 2500 fps and plenty of power near 3000 lbs of punch. That’s in the jacket bullet power range of the 30-06. This bullet cast hard and with a de-tempered nose will give very deep penetration and plenty of expansion for swift killing power. RCBS makes a flat nose gas checked 180 grainer...numbered 30-180-FN (I think) the same loads tweaked for accuracy as the Lyman 210 grainer and again the killing power is excellent. I use the FN 180 when I know the range with full loads won’t go past 250 yards or so...the 210 grainer when long range to 400 yards and deep penetration is needed. The 180 is good to elk and such...the 210 goes to the moose and grizzly level. For close range, low recoil loads, the RCBS 30-150-FN at around 150 grains a little lighter in my alloy....and the Lyman 311041 another flat nosed killer at 165 grains in my alloy....over 10 grains of Red Dot goes 1400 fps and 10 grains of 231 goes 1100 fps. Careful with both these powders the jump in pressure very quickly...for example, 3 more grains of 231 going to 13 grains from 10 grains...jumps the pressure an additional13,000+psi...that’s over 3330 lbs of pressure per grain! Twelve grains of Unique with either of these bullets will go around 1500 fps...32 grains of 4759 gives 2400 fps (and 50,000 psi) 28/2400 goes 2200 fps at 39,000 psi or so. All good loads...all deadly with those flat noses on decent sized game. What other cartridge in 308 is in the same class as the 30-06..none! That’s why if we like it or not, it doesn’t change the fact the 30-06 is the all around rifle/caliber combination for 90% of the worlds game and 99% of the lower 48 states game...the Norma 308 Magnum is a short magnum that is an excellent cartridge but it’s not popular in America and the 30-06 can do anything it can do...it’s about the same power level as the 30/284 wildcat...which is again a duplicate of the 30-06. If the 30-06 has any real competition in it’s class, it is with a round that really is still a wildcat somewhat. But very popular at one time. I find it a joy to have and shoot. It’s the 8mm06. The .323 caliber size being a larger bore than the .308 bore gives a better expansion ratio (more velocity for the same pressure as the bore gets larger...general rule of ballistics). Many of the commercial casters like Beartooth make some fine selections and with flat nose design for killing authority for this caliber. But RCBS makes a mould called 08-170-FN...for some reason even with my fairly hard allow it drops closer to 180 grains. This does it all for me.... I have a 1932 Mauser (‘98) 8mm Mauser that was reamed to the 8mm06 cartridge. Don’t know how it would have perform as the original 8mmX57 but I suspect it would have been awfully good. The conversion was done in Texas in the 1950s...Nicely sporterized to the European style, which always gets to my blood pressure...I bought the rifle in a pawn shot in San Antonio in the early 1960s for the terrible price of $24.99. Everybody thought that was way over priced at the time...since military rifles from all over the world were pouring into the States at very cheap prices. But this one has had excellent work done to it...all the bells and whistles, and the labor alone was worth well over 25 bucks even then. The last offer I had on it was the price of any standard caliber Remington/Ruger/Winchester rifle on the commercial rack....thanks but no thanks. I know what I have...it will be past down in the family....
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