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Post by alukban on Jan 26, 2018 11:36:15 GMT -5
My brother (up in Canada) and I have matching Ruger No.1's in .35 Whelen. We even settled on the same load for our rifles in anticipation of a future moose or elk hunting trip in Quebec. I have not yet shot a thing with the .35 Whelen. Nothing by me warrants its use but it sure is fun to plink with. I may try for deer with it using .357 MAG JHP's. Though lacking in experience with it, I like the cartridge enough that I could not resist a picking up a Sedgley Springfield that was rebored to .35 Whelen that came up on sale on GB. NOBODY else had bid (or is it "bad") on it at all It shoots great!
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Post by coldtriggerfinger on Jan 27, 2018 19:31:50 GMT -5
A guy I know here called me last night offering me a 35 Whelan built on a 17 Enfield for $500. More than I want to spend on a blued rifle. I like the 35 Whelan. But I would rather build another 375 Whelan or better yet , a 400 Whelan. A 300ish gr GSHV @ 2400+ or a 400 gr Woodleigh rnsn @2100 is my idea or just right for where I would hunt it. Northern Southeast Alaska. Well, the ABC islands.
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Post by bradshaw on Jan 27, 2018 20:13:31 GMT -5
A guy I know here called me last night offering me a 35 Whelan built on a 17 Enfield for $500. More than I want to spend on a blued rifle. I like the 35 Whelan. But I would rather build another 375 Whelan or better yet , a 400 Whelan. A 300ish gr GSHV @ 2400+ or a 400 gr Woodleigh rnsn @2100 is my idea or just right for where I would hunt it. Northern Southeast Alaska. Well, the ABC islands. ***** Probably ought to keep my nose out of it. But----yes, once in a while the word but justifies its dubious existence----the 1917 Enfield is one famous 100 year old antique that deserves a place in history, which should not be confused as reason to lug the club into the woods. The Enfield Model 1917 earned high production output because the machinery was in place during the excitement of war. Without World War I overtaxing Springfield Model 1903 output, the 1917 Enfield would have been hard pressed to find a pair of smiling hands to hold it. “I would rather build...” pretty well locks up you case. David Bradshaw
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Post by nolongcolt on Jan 27, 2018 21:06:24 GMT -5
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Post by bigbrowndog on Jan 27, 2018 22:27:18 GMT -5
I know I typed in Whelen, .....it just did it again on me on this post. The autocorrect changes it to Whelan? Trapr
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Post by coldtriggerfinger on Jan 28, 2018 0:00:17 GMT -5
A guy I know here called me last night offering me a 35 Whelan built on a 17 Enfield for $500. More than I want to spend on a blued rifle. I like the 35 Whelan. But I would rather build another 375 Whelan or better yet , a 400 Whelan. A 300ish gr GSHV @ 2400+ or a 400 gr Woodleigh rnsn @2100 is my idea or just right for where I would hunt it. Northern Southeast Alaska. Well, the ABC islands. ***** Probably ought to keep my nose out of it. But----yes, once in a while the word but justifies its dubious existence----the 1917 Enfield is one famous 100 year old antique that deserves a place in history, which should not be confused as reason to lug the club into the woods. The Enfield Model 1917 earned high production output because the machinery was in place during the excitement of war. Without World War I overtaxing Springfield Model 1903 output, the 1917 Enfield would have been hard pressed to find a pair of smiling hands to hold it. “I would rather build...” pretty well locks up you case. David Bradshaw No , I actually REALLY like the P14 and 1917 Enfields. Have had several rifles built on those actions . Also had an A-Square Hannible in 500 A-Sq. But since the Stainless revolution I have gone all stainless. I've never been much on the Springfield. Had some didn't care for them. Lots of guys do tho.
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Post by coldtriggerfinger on Jan 28, 2018 0:07:24 GMT -5
No I'm the one that did it. I should remember the correct spelling of Whelen.
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Post by cmh on Jan 28, 2018 0:34:53 GMT -5
***** Probably ought to keep my nose out of it. But----yes, once in a while the word but justifies its dubious existence----the 1917 Enfield is one famous 100 year old antique that deserves a place in history, which should not be confused as reason to lug the club into the woods. The Enfield Model 1917 earned high production output because the machinery was in place during the excitement of war. Without World War I overtaxing Springfield Model 1903 output, the 1917 Enfield would have been hard pressed to find a pair of smiling hands to hold it. “I would rather build...” pretty well locks up you case. David Bradshaw No , I actually REALLY like the P14 and 1917 Enfields. Have had several rifles built on those actions . Also had an A-Square Hannible in 500 A-Sq. But since the Stainless revolution I have gone all stainless. I've never been much on the Springfield. Had some didn't care for them. Lots of guys do tho. I like the enfield actions as well. Have two ..... one destined to become a 35 Whelen and the other undecided but eventually Ill decide on the second one. 😉
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Post by coldtriggerfinger on Jan 28, 2018 1:07:59 GMT -5
They (P14 + 1917 Enfields) are somewhat irresistible to me. Like the CZ 550s are. Oddly enough , I could take or leave the crf Model 70s. They're great , no doubt. But, compared to the crf M77s nope.
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Post by alukban on Jan 28, 2018 12:58:40 GMT -5
The advantages of the “35” Whelen to me are: - cheap and widely available brass formed from .30-06 - the ability to use pistol bullets to expand its utility and fun
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Post by Steve on Feb 12, 2018 15:07:46 GMT -5
It never ceases to amaze me how little love there is for the 35 caliber in rifles. My BLR takedown in 358 Winchester is my favorite woods walking / saddle gun.
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Post by boxhead on Feb 15, 2018 0:44:05 GMT -5
I have been shooting the Whelen for many years. I had a couple of M700's then landed an old Ruger M77 RS. I bedded into a Bansner stock and had it matte blued. Pretty lightweight piece given the lightweight stock and barrel contour that finishes at .560". To date it has taken two black bear in Alberta with the 250 gr Speer, two nilgai with the 250 gr Partition here in Texas, an elk and moose in BC with the 225 gr Barnes TSX and a mule deer in Wyoming with the 250 gr Speer. A couple of Texas hogs as well with, I think, the 250 gr Speer. I have shot a fair bit of large game with it, the 338-06 and the 9.3x62 and would probably keep the Whelen if I could only own one. Check out Speer's latest data. www.speer-ammo.com/reloading/rifle#caliber
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Post by coldtriggerfinger on Mar 3, 2018 15:24:08 GMT -5
That is some amazing velocity. I think a guy would want to approach those max loads with caution. They do list some powders I haven't used so I may be overly cautious. I do really study out Speer data as in the past they have had some incorrect data. But then I've also used a lot of Speer data with great success. 2700 fps with a 250 gr bullet is ALOT of velocity. For the 35 Whelen. I wonder what barrel length they used ?
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Post by nolongcolt on Mar 4, 2018 0:33:17 GMT -5
I agree on that. Claiming over 4000 ft lbs of energy with that load! The funny part is they only give a max energy of 3850 or so for the 9.3x62 with the 270 gr Speer and the 9.3 has an advantage in powder capacity. I once used one of their loads in my .45 ACP but used a different brand of bullet, same weight. HOLY SMOKES, Look out! Fire and brimstone! I called them and talked to a techie and he said the load was safe but only with the listed bullet, Speer of course. I told him they really ought to have another look at the load, but they didn't as far as I know. I would like to think they know what they are doing and that those top end loads are legit, but I wont go there.
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Post by mart on Mar 6, 2018 0:49:50 GMT -5
I have both a 35 and 400 Whelen and had at one time a Sedgley Springfield rebored to 375 Whelen. I sold it off thinking it was redundant. I wish I had it back. It might have been redundant but it was sure cool.
My 35 Whelen is a pre 64 model 70, converted to left handed operation by Bob West and rebored to 35 Whelen by Cliff Labounty. It has a 1/14 twist and thinks it is a varmint rifle with any 250 grain bullet. I load 250 grain Nosler Partitions over 56 grains of 4320 and the old 275 grain Hornady RN over 54 grains of 4320. The 250s have the edge on accuracy.
I could be very happy with the 35 Whelen for North America, if I was limited to one big game rifle. It hits like the cliched hammer, recoil is very manageable, and bullet selection is good. Selection is not 338 good, but if you cannot find a good bullet you're not looking very hard.
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