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Post by Quick Draw McGraw on Mar 28, 2017 10:09:24 GMT -5
Okay, the recoil is making me cry uncle on this platform. My issue is that the new gloves I bought, ProAims (thanks Whit!) Really reduce the palm pounding, but are a little slippery and allow more rotation in my .475 Linebaugh and .500 S&W mag BFRs than is comfortable. So I'm thinking of shipping them off to Mag-Na-Port. I am planning on getting the brake I stalled on the .500 buy porting the .475. they said if I ever plan on scoping the revolver the 4 ports will create problems for the optic. Honestly, if I put anything on the .475 it will be a Red Dot. Think I am safe with 4 ports? What say you guys about this whole proposition?
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Post by whitworth on Mar 28, 2017 11:06:37 GMT -5
How are you loading them and how many shots do you fire in a typical range session? Also, how many of those shots are fired off the bench?
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Post by Quick Draw McGraw on Mar 28, 2017 11:34:17 GMT -5
How are you loading them and how many shots do you fire in a typical range session? Also, how many of those shots are fired off the bench? I am not shooting max loads, but they are full house loads. With the Linebaugh, if I load it light, I would rather just load .480 Ruger instead. And I do. With the .500 Mag, same story. I have the JRH, so why load it light? Typical trip sees me digest around 20 to 30 rounds max. Also, preferably not on the bench. I prefer standing. When on the bench, it's more like 10 to 15 rds. |
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Post by dougader on Mar 28, 2017 11:51:52 GMT -5
Everyone will have their own preferences. I magnaported a 454 SRH and didn't like it. YMMV.
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Post by COR on Mar 28, 2017 12:10:45 GMT -5
I read another thread that exclaimed the virtues of this platform. Handling recoil is not one of them. I also have only been "cut" by one handgun which was a BFR (Pre-JT) that had very sharp edges. In fairness to the platform I've never seen one after a JRH grip treatment so I'm not able to opine there on anything other than aesthetics. The standard grip on a BFR is not well thought out and will never effectively handle the "rifle length" cartridges or even some of the heavily loaded 1.4 - 1.6 inchers for that matter....adding Rubber Pachy's doesn't help either... On the Pre JT guns you could add the Bisley gripframe from a Ruger and have a wonderful platform that just needs a decent front sight (not required, just my preference).
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Post by whitworth on Mar 28, 2017 12:24:06 GMT -5
It's basically a Super Blackhawk grip frame without the squared off trigger guard. Some folks like the new rubber grip and while I think it's okay, with top-end loads it's not the greatest (especially not with my .45/70). I actually like the old rubber grips better. The new Bisley grip looks and feels promising, but I haven't taken mine for a spin yet. The JRH grip mod is excellent and fixes it IMHO. The added weight of the BFR works in our favor when recoil starts to climb. My suggestion would be the grip mod and custom grip by Huntington for a true fix.
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Post by CraigC on Mar 28, 2017 12:36:54 GMT -5
I've shot a later model BFR .500 with the JRH grip mod and grips. While it's not my favorite configuration, it was quite comfortable and manageable.
Did you get the factory micarta? I don't remember if I've ever handled one with factory micarta or not.
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Post by Quick Draw McGraw on Mar 28, 2017 12:57:46 GMT -5
Everyone will have their own preferences. I magnaported a 454 SRH and didn't like it. YMMV. Tell me what didn't you like? You might persuade me here. |
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Post by Quick Draw McGraw on Mar 28, 2017 13:02:45 GMT -5
Did you get the factory micarta? I don't remember if I've ever handled one with factory micarta or not. No I had the new Hogue grips. I like this on my JRH. On the .475 it busted my left hand knuckle and the .500 S&W gave my palm a good "thwack" with every shot. I am using the wood Hogue grip on the .475 with the old model Uncle Mike's grip as a stand in. That is pretty comfy, just slippery with my gloves. The .500 Smith is wearing a rubber SBH Hogue that works great but again the gloves make it slippery. The slipping causes my trigger finger to get chewed by the trigger guard. If I change grips again, I'm sending the guns to Jack. I shot a .45-70 with the mod and it was nice. But if I can stop the muzzle rise, that may be enough. |
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Post by CraigC on Mar 28, 2017 13:13:13 GMT -5
Custom grips make all the difference in the world. Jack does them right.
Hogue's give me the hives.
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Post by Snyd on Mar 28, 2017 13:20:23 GMT -5
Okay, the recoil is making me cry uncle on this platform. My issue is that the new gloves I bought, ProAims (thanks Whit!) Really reduce the palm pounding, but are a little slippery and allow more rotation in my .475 Linebaugh and .500 S&W mag BFRs than is comfortable. So I'm thinking of shipping them off to Mag-Na-Port. I am planning on getting the brake I stalled on the .500 buy porting the .475. they said if I ever plan on scoping the revolver the 4 ports will create problems for the optic. Honestly, if I put anything on the .475 it will be a Red Dot. Think I am safe with 4 ports? What say you guys about this whole proposition? A buddy of mine had a BFR 500 S&W with some Hogue "squishy" grips on it. I shot it with some high end loads (he doesn't load anything light) and it was nice to shoot and was a tack driver. He decided to have a muzzle brake installed and it killed the accuracy. Mag-na-port is not a recoil reducer. They even say that. They say "maybe" 15 %. It's a muzzle flip reducer and for my coverted 4" 454 Redhawk and pencil barreled 325wsm it works very well. A "cheap but effective" start might be to try some of the Hogue grips. Might not be pretty but hey.... "form follows function" Here's a random pic off the internet of what they looked like...  |
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Post by dougader on Mar 28, 2017 13:51:10 GMT -5
Everyone will have their own preferences. I magnaported a 454 SRH and didn't like it. YMMV. Tell me what didn't you like? You might persuade me here. Lead bullets blow fragments out the ports. On my SRH the lead would cake up on the edges of the front sight base. Using gas check bullets helped with this, however. For high pressure loads (mine pushed a 335 WLNGC @ 1430 fps; not max) and a 7-1/2" barrel it seemed to me that the bullet still brought the gun up into full recoil before it passed the ports. Then the high pressure gases would snap the barrel back down. For me, the hard slap into my palm wasn't the problem, it was the snapping up and down that wreaked havoc on my wrists. One or two shots had me flinching and whining. The un-ported gun felt better to me; the porting made it worse, so I sold the gun. I now have the SRH 480 and a SBH 480. I leave them as is and load up to the edges of my comfort level. Some people say why not load it up to run like it was built to do? At 57 with arthritis, I say why beat myself up when a 395 grain hp will take any animal I care to hunt in the Pacific NW? If I was going after Cape Buff, Alaskan Brown, or similar I'd load up; but I'm not, so I don't. |
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Post by Quick Draw McGraw on Mar 28, 2017 14:15:57 GMT -5
Snyd:
Those are the grips I currently have. Without gloves it's brutal on the palm. With them, the muzzle flip tends to twist the gun up and make it difficult to control. So the fact that Mag-Na-Port will reduce muzzle flip is exactly what I need. Good point though. Did your buddy get the muzzle brake from Mag-Na-Port? If I was accuracy-inhibiting, you'd think they would fix that. Still, your insight there is making me think twice.
dougader:
That sounds horrible! I was thinking of putting the ports on my .454 SRH too. Not now! I wonder though if it would not be as bad on the Linebaugh as the pressure is lower than the .454 Casull. What do you think?
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Post by Quick Draw McGraw on Mar 28, 2017 18:12:39 GMT -5
I talked to Jack Huntington and he's got a porting process I may add to the .500 S&W mag. The more user the responses here, the less I want to put holes in my .475 Linebaugh. I might spend the money for a better grip from Jack though. I just want to try and get the muzzle rise in that one under control. The .500 mag needs a little taming, it's a beast.
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Post by nolongcolt on Mar 28, 2017 18:25:35 GMT -5
Thing about major changes like porting, it narrows down your potential buyers should you ever decide to sell.
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