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Post by sixshot on Feb 20, 2017 13:59:49 GMT -5
I think it's already been hijacked. You should see that rifle for real, it's amazing! He also built the mounts & rings from scratch. He's a member of the Gunmakers Guild for both wood & metal. Glenn Swaggart & a few others has seen his work. He's taken many big muley bucks with it & a B&C Idaho Moose with it.
Dick
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Post by harveylogan on Feb 20, 2017 15:38:55 GMT -5
Bradshaw, a question or enlightenment please.
Very first handgun I purchased was a 10.5" SBH blue ~ 1979, Hunter holster, and off to go deer hunting, shot 5-6 deer with it over the next few years and then needed money and sold it. Ohhh the regret.
Stainless handguns were turning into the buzz at the time and thought,,, when I wanted to replace it would do so with a Stainless model. I did replace it eventually and 10 or so years back converted it to Bisley, then got talked out of it & traded it off for a 6.5" Bisley 32. Not as much regret but still missed it.
A few years back aquired another Stainless just a few #'s away from the previous. 84-863xx, it's not going anywhere.
Both of these Stainless 10.5" SBH have a tapered barrel, soldered front sight base w/pinned blade, and standard size ERH (4"), I have always thought these guns were the first and in few numbers built.
QUESTION/ ENLIGHTENMENT, of you knowledge with how these guns fit into the scheme of things? THANKS
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Post by bradshaw on Feb 20, 2017 21:20:38 GMT -5
Bradshaw, a question or enlightenment please. Very first handgun I purchased was a 10.5" SBH blue ~ 1979... and off to go deer hunting, shot 5-6 deer with it over the next few years... sold it. Ohhh the regret. Stainless handguns were turning into the buzz at the time and thought to replace it... with a Stainless model. I did... then got talked out of it... A few years back acquired... 84-863xx, it's not going anywhere. Both of these Stainless 10.5" SBH have a tapered barrel, soldered front sight base w/pinned blade, and standard size ERH (4"), I have always thought these guns were the first and in few numbers built. QUESTION/ ENLIGHTENMENT, of you knowledge with how these guns fit into the scheme of things? THANKS” ***** harveylogan.... your 1979 was from the first year of 10-1/2” production. Model S410N, it quickly earned the handle “Silhouette Super.” Ruger produced the first stainless SBH’s in 1983, with the bull 10-1/2” with Maximum ejector and target front sight in the first batch. I pushed for immediate release of this variant----KS411N----to test it on the firing line and without delay get it into the hands of IHMSA silhouetters. It became known as the “Silver Hornpipe,” an appellation which infuriated Bill Ruger. (It might not have, if there had been a car called the Silver Hornpipe.) Release of a stainless SBH modeled on the blued S410N followed. Model KS410N (“K” prefix on a Ruger denotes stainless). I suspect fewer of these tapered stainless 10-1/2” were made than the bull stainless 10-1/2”, since silhouetters gobbled up the bull (no taper) version. All these guns were made in Southport, Connecticut, with most if not all fitted with broach-rifled barrels by George Wilson, also of Connecticut. Single action tooling was moved to Newport, New Hampshire, with production starting there in 1992. The Newport guns have barrels hammer-forged in house. Accuracy comes down to the individual barrel, not method of rifling. I suspect groove diameter varies less with hammer forged rifling, as the groove of the broached barrels varied----barrel to barrel----from .428 to .432-inch. One does not stereotype accuracy by model; accuracy is measured by the individual gun. As to "how these guns fit the scheme of things,” to put it Country Simple, the Silhouette Super and Silver Hornpipe flipped magnum handgunning on its head. Newcomers found these Rugers an economical, instructional instrument for learning to shoot longer distances. These guns remain sleepers. David Bradshaw
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Post by elvaquero on Feb 20, 2017 22:22:31 GMT -5
Thanks again for your informative and well written reply, Mr. Bradshaw. Now that you have brought the history of the gun to life, my cravings for a 10.5" SBH are even worse. As for my 7.5" blue, Bisely SBH, I will opt for a larger ejector button and a ghost ring rear sight, as I carry it mounted most of the time and thus shoot one-handed.
Sixshot, Your story of the hunt was awesome and also well written. As I read it, I was there! I'm guessing that bear weighed 800-1000 lbs.
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Post by sixshot on Feb 21, 2017 0:01:38 GMT -5
No, it didn't weigh anywhere near that much but we could barely roll it over & I've already told you we are 2 big guys. What makes them look so big, & no doubt he was a monster is the fact that the hair is so long on a spring bear. Everyone over estimates the weight, including us so we can't accurately say even though we have killed many, many bears. Between me, my 4 son's & 3 grandson's we've killed 25 bears, all spot & stalk & almost all of them within 3-4 miles of where this one was taken. I have taken 3 bears in Alaska. We have been able to pack a few out on the 4 wheelers but have never went to the bother of weighing one, this one was impossible to get a 4 wheeler to & we had way too much work to do anyway to get that hide off & get off that mountain before dark, it can get pretty hairy after dark, don't ask me how I know! We've seen as many as 52 bears in 8 days, true story! Here's the same son but about 30 years ago, he was 13 at the time & we were on a pack trip with the horses. This is a very nice bear, he killed it with his Sako 243, on shot at pretty long range. Can't remember for sure but I've wrote up the story before. I was filming Big Horn rams when the bear walked up the trail right to us.....and then he ran and ran & ran. Finally stopped & Shane smoked him, great hunt & an all night ride in the dark to get back to camp. Dick
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Post by sal on Feb 21, 2017 1:44:33 GMT -5
Good story Dick,as always
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Post by harveylogan on Feb 21, 2017 9:51:31 GMT -5
Thanks for the Education, very informational tread. Always better with a pic or 2
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Post by oddshooter on Feb 21, 2017 12:21:10 GMT -5
those last two are beautiful. drooling
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Post by jdoc on Feb 21, 2017 12:44:25 GMT -5
I like "Silver Hornpipe".
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Post by Rimfire69 on Feb 22, 2017 8:10:54 GMT -5
Not to disrespect " the old man ", but me to.
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Post by nockhunter on Feb 23, 2017 0:48:58 GMT -5
Harvey, WOW the only other SBH like mine that I have ever seen. Nice Bisley add on, by the way. I was toying with the idea myself.
Mike
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Post by sixshot on Mar 10, 2017 5:38:57 GMT -5
25 yd. target with my 10 1/2" 44 stainless with the Bisley grip frame. Was having a bad day so the group opened up quite a bit.... Dick
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Post by cmillard on Mar 10, 2017 5:43:16 GMT -5
tighten that group up a bit. fine shooting!
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Post by Joe S. on Mar 21, 2017 10:43:04 GMT -5
I have three long barrel Rugers. A 10.5" Max, a 9.5" Single Six 32 maggie, and this ol beater 10.5" Super. I saw someone mention a pinned front sight on the blued guns. This onehas a screw on sight, as do the other two. I have only shot this one at 50, but I have taken my Max to 100. They are fun to shoot.
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Post by bradshaw on Mar 21, 2017 12:04:12 GMT -5
Joe S.... Ruger did not pin blade to base on blue 10-1/2-inch Super Blackhawks. Front sight is silver soldered on the tapered, standard ejector S410N (Silhouette Super). For the bull 10-1/2 KS411N (Silver Hornpipe) with maximum ejector has a target front sight, which is screwed to the barrel. In all cases blade in integral with base. David Bradshaw
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