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Post by aus71383 on Sept 11, 2016 23:46:42 GMT -5
They do make 32-20 brass....which is parent to the 25-20 and 218 Bee I think....I have all 3 calibers, haven't reloaded for any of them yet....but I did pick up some 32-20 brass from Starline "just in case"
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Post by oregon45 on Oct 4, 2016 20:14:22 GMT -5
Just got the email: my 500 .357 max cases have shipped! Looking forward to comparing them with the Remington brass I have.
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Post by 2sheriffs on Oct 5, 2016 11:55:35 GMT -5
The price sure has gone up. The last 500 that I ordered it seems to me was not much over $100.00. Pretty soon they will be worth their weight in gold.
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Post by bradshaw on Oct 5, 2016 12:06:38 GMT -5
Just got the email: my 500 .357 max cases have shipped! Looking forward to comparing them with the Remington brass I have. *** oregon45.... please weigh 5 unprimed Starline and 5 unprimed Remington .357 Maximum cases and post here. David Bradshaw
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Post by oregon45 on Oct 5, 2016 12:40:14 GMT -5
Just got the email: my 500 .357 max cases have shipped! Looking forward to comparing them with the Remington brass I have. *** oregon45.... please weigh 5 unprimed Starline and 5 unprimed Remington .357 Maximum cases and post here. David Bradshaw Will do, might section one of both as well.
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Post by bradshaw on Oct 5, 2016 17:10:35 GMT -5
oregon45..... no need to section cases, unless you want to. Remington case wall thickens as it approaches the web, imparting strength at the corner. In conjunction with proper brass & heat treatment, the case withstands reloading. Federal .357 Maximum brass was thinner in the lower wall than Remington, and slightly thinner any the mouth. In addition, Federal brass was nickel plated, which, while it prevents grass from growing in belt loops, contributes nothing to elasticity and strength. In this shooter's experience, reloading life for a given load favors plain cartridge brass. Note that my experience certainly omits brass analysis, a crucial component of reloading life.
By my experience, Starline .44 Mag and .45 Colt brass provides excellent reloading. Aside from the early doom imposed by loading Rocks & Dynamite, reloading life really is a test of brass quality. Providing your Remington and Starline weights are close, load volume is close. Typically, 180 to 200 grain bullets shoot tighter with H4227, IMR 4227, Winchester 680, and Accurate 1680. Don't forget to use the small RIFLE PRIMER----to prevent BLANKING into the firing pin hole. The faster Winchester 296/Hodgdon 110 may yield velocity more consistent than accuracy. If 2400 is the only powder available, throttle down and expect working accuracy. David Bradshaw
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Post by gman50 on Oct 8, 2016 17:31:33 GMT -5
David, Not Remington compared to Starline but I weighed 10 pieces of Jamison and 10 of Starline. Jamison 91.8 92.3 92.1 91.8 92.5 91.8 92.1 92.3 92.2 92.2 Starline 102.9 102.9 102.9 103.4 102.6 104.0 104.1 102.4 102.8 102.8
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Post by bradshaw on Oct 9, 2016 8:33:52 GMT -5
David, Not Remington compared to Starline but I weighed 10 pieces of Jamison and 10 of Starline. Jamison 91.8 92.3 92.1 91.8 92.5 91.8 92.1 92.3 92.2 92.2 Starline 102.9 102.9 102.9 103.4 102.6 104.0 104.1 102.4 102.8 102.8 *** To weigh ten of each case, as you have, provides a more useful sample. I suspect the Jamison .357 Maximum brass may mirror the old Federal, thinner where the wall joins the web. If so, and given reasonably similar brass alloy and heat treatment, the case with more wall support should enjoy better reloading life. One thing I haven't mentioned is the web-to-wall radius. Both Remington nor Federal .357 Maximum brass enjoy a radiusessed web-to-wall corner. As an example, I have seen off-brand .40 S&W brass with a sharp corner at the web. Such brass invites trouble in the auto pistol, many of which with generous feed ramps and chambers for reliability. The revolver, of course, supplies the best case support, with the .357 Maximum----with jul straight chambers----doing it right. While your Jamison brass shows closer extreme spread on weight than the Starline----0.5 grain variation for Jamison, versus 1.7 grains variation for Starline----my vote for reloading life goes to Starline. Notice I am projecting experience with the heavier Remington vs the thinner Federal. Even so, thanks to the straight Ruger chambers Federal held up well for me. Brass is the head gasket of cartridge firearms. Rocks & Dynamite necessarily shorten case life, even with minimal headspace and tight chambers. High pressure in loose chambers naturally kills brass very quickly. Given an accurate revolver, variation of a couple of grains in case weight doesn't matter. In reloading for silhouette, and for hunting, it is best to keep brass together by BRAND and LOT. Much more important than couple of grains case variation, at least psychologically, is to separate loads by resistance as felt during the bullet seating stroke. When stepping to the line in a championship, or swinging a mountain in pursuit of game, there is no room to doubt your ammunition. David Bradshaw
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