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Post by Quick Draw McGraw on Jul 23, 2016 15:51:53 GMT -5
Hey guys. I saw an Anime a while back called Hellsing. The main character weilded a 1911-style Semi Auto with a 10-inch barrel chambered in .454 Casull. I have to wonder: could it really be done? Could a semi auto pistol really handle the pressure, recoil, and concussive force of the cartridge? I'd think a 1911 would be a bad choice as a gas-operated system would probably be needed due to spring power being insufficient. What say you fellas? I'm curious to call someone like Jack Huntington to get his thoughts.
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Post by dougader on Jul 23, 2016 19:20:50 GMT -5
In a Desert Eagle, maybe.
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Post by Quick Draw McGraw on Jul 23, 2016 19:42:46 GMT -5
I think it would be the most likely platform to be successful.
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Post by f3 on Jul 23, 2016 22:37:26 GMT -5
Maybe a Wildey.
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Post by bulasteve on Jul 24, 2016 8:12:40 GMT -5
Maybe it would weigh 4-5lbs..Mechanically possible, yeah.
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Post by Quick Draw McGraw on Jul 24, 2016 9:17:45 GMT -5
The Wildey is another good idea. That gun would be taking a lot of abuse. Being honest, it's a completely a impractical idea. Not that this has ever stopped anyone before. To me it looked cool on screen but I would prefer a Toklat or an Alaskan as the chance of something going wrong with the gun is next to nil. Not o mention that the DA operation would make reloads fairly quick.
I think having the rails be apart from the frame like on the Ruger American Pistol would be a good idea as the brutality of the cartridge would require them to be replaced somewhere down the line.
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Post by cmh on Jul 24, 2016 10:25:43 GMT -5
Better have some big paws for the grip.....
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Post by 2 Dogs on Jul 24, 2016 10:43:02 GMT -5
A big Broomhandle Mauser with a 4x4 shock absorber recoil spring.
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Post by RpR on Jul 24, 2016 13:25:20 GMT -5
You could put it in a LAR Grizzly, JRH is finishing mine in .475 Wildey.
As the Grizzly already uses the .45 Win. Mag. there is no real reason.
The Grizzly is/was available in .44 Magnum so using a rimmed case should not be a problem, but modifying a magazine is not cheap or quickly done.
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Post by bradshaw on Jul 24, 2016 13:26:10 GMT -5
Hey guys. I saw an Anime a while back called Hellsing. The main character weilded a 1911-style Semi Auto with a 10-inch barrel chambered in .454 Casull. I have to wonder: could it really be done? Could a semi auto pistol really handle the pressure, recoil, and concussive force of the cartridge? I'd think a 1911 would be a bad choice as a gas-operated system would probably be needed due to spring power being insufficient. What say you fellas? I'm curious to call someone like Jack Huntington to get his thoughts. Unable to separate Jon Powers from his .44 Magmatic, Israeli Military Industries settled for a different gas operated semi-auto pistol which they named the Desert Eagle. Dick Casull's .454 is a velocity cartridge; depends on a close-dimensioned revolver to reach advertised velocity. The Desert Eagle bleeds off a copious volume of gas right in front of the chamber, which defeats the purpose of a high pressure round to escalate velocity. Someone with King Farouk's wallet and possessed of an utter disdain for reality will sink a few million into fashioning a 3-pound auto pistol around the .454 Casull. It might even escape hand grenade status for the first box. The buyer may want to reserve a bed at the ER before shooting it. David Bradshaw |
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Post by squawberryman on Jul 24, 2016 15:57:38 GMT -5
So when does he start?
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Post by magnumwheelman on Aug 1, 2016 14:07:47 GMT -5
shot my 30 Carbine Automag 3 this weekend... yep... the grip is long... but very "doable" I was trying Hornady's Critical Defense Ammo which is a 110n grain rubber filled hollow point ( means the bullet is longer... & thus the cartridge slightly longer than a 110 grain FMJ bullet ) loud boom & huge fireball, but perfectly shot to point of aim at 30 yards... hads my buddy try it for the 1st time, & he thought it had one of the best triggers he's shot, & he had no trouble hitting the target every time, even though his hands are a little smaller than mine...
I also have an Automag 4 & an Automag 5... 4 is chambered in 10 mm Magnum, & 5 is chambered in 50 A.E.... these are just over sized 1911's so I'd think the 454 would be easy in either an over sized 1911 ( Like an LAR Grizzly, or Automag ) or in a Desert Eagle rotary bolt type of weapon...
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Post by JSilva on Aug 1, 2016 15:59:35 GMT -5
If a semi automatic 454 could be build, a 475 linebaugh aught to be possible too since they share the same COL.
The part that would interest me would be suppressing them Both.
Yeah the lead is going super sonic still but it sure would go a long way to chilling out that screaming thing they do when you smash that primer.
Since we're dreaming and stuff, count me in for an auto loading carbine with a box mag. Preferably one without a gas system to clog with lead. Although powder coating might solve that too.
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Post by Quick Draw McGraw on Aug 1, 2016 16:33:35 GMT -5
Damn Magnumwheelman, I want a 10mm Magnum! I spoke to Jack last week and he felt it was certainly possible. But due to the extreme pressures, he felt the only right way to do it was either a gas system, or a roller delay blowback, and would require a new design from scratch. So, I am not gonna try that. Dare to dream, I guess.
If love to see a return of the 10mm Magnum.
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Post by squawberryman on Aug 1, 2016 18:23:04 GMT -5
BMG six shot single stack....
Come in Farouk...
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