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Post by warhawk on Jan 12, 2016 19:22:27 GMT -5
I'm a big fan of westerns, and especially movies from the Mountain Man era. But I was disappointed with revenant. At least 90% of the movie it's foggy and raining, or snowing. Very dark and gloomy. Decaprios character survives a couple of (should be) fatal accidents, and makes a miraculous recovery each time.
The whole thing didn't hold a candle to Jeremiah Johnson or the Mountain Men, in my opinion, with one exception, the photography was better than what they had available 40 years ago.
All in all I wish I'd have saved my money and waited for it to hit Netflix, I think it'll be there fairly soon.
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Post by paulg on Jan 12, 2016 20:16:32 GMT -5
That's what I'm waitin on.
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Post by nolongcolt on Jan 12, 2016 20:58:51 GMT -5
I plan to see it, though I can imagine it is overblown. Its based on a true story which was filmed some time ago with Richard Harris in the lead role, called 'Man in the Wilderness', a somewhat more realistic version. Story of mountain man Hugh Glass. I have the book on it.
Jeremiah Johnson is still one of my favorite movies. It got me interested in black powder shooting and a desire to see the Rocky Mountains and it inspired me to work for an elk outfitter in Idaho for a couple of years in the 70's. I regret none of that. BTW, for those interested, the soundtrack music is now available for Jeremiah J. on CD. It took many years for its release but its out now, has been for a few years now.
"I Hatchet Jack, being of sound mind and broke legs, hereby leaveth my bear rifle to whatever finds it. Lord hope it be a white man. It is a good rifle and kilt the bar that kilt me. Anyway, I am dead, yours truly. Hatchet Jack". "Fifty caliber Hawken!"
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Post by contender on Jan 12, 2016 22:47:15 GMT -5
We went to see it this past weekend. It was a family gathering as there were 7 of us who wanted to see it. We were all a bit disappointed in the quality of the facts they could have easily done right. Flintlock pistol firing twice w/o a reload, dropped or thrown flintlock rifles being picked up & fired,,, (I really want that magical pan powder that stays in there,) Lots of wet action, yet the firemakings & stuff always dry, Floating down a river wearing a bearskin & floating,,, no signs of frostbite or hypothermia, etc, etc, etc.
One of the reasons it was a family affair fir us is that my son is married to a premier Flintlock maker's daughter. Jim Chambers of Chambers Flintlocks. In this movie,, the guns were made by a guy in Pa. and he uses Chambers locks & such. Jim & his wife, my son & his wife, Miss Penny & I and an uncle. ALL of us went to dinner afterwards & discussed how we felt the producers could have done a bit better by hiring good technical advisers.
There were parts we felt were good, but unfortunately,,, it left us all, (including the ladies,) feeling like they missed the mark.
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Post by warhawk on Jan 12, 2016 23:13:26 GMT -5
How about riding a horse off a cliff, the impact was severe enough to literally tear the horse apart, but Decaprio dusts himself off and is apparently no worse for wear. That kind of thing is just ridiculous. I expect Hollywood to get the details wrong, and take a lot of liberties in telling the story. But this one was just too much.
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Post by rgp on Jan 12, 2016 23:29:14 GMT -5
How about riding a horse off a cliff, the impact was severe enough to literally tear the horse apart, but Decaprio dusts himself off and is apparently no worse for wear. That kind of thing is just ridiculous. I expect Hollywood to get the details wrong, and take a lot of liberties in telling the story. But this one was just too much. I am certain someone notified his stunt double's next of kin.
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Post by contender on Jan 13, 2016 9:23:27 GMT -5
Gee,,, didn't you see how he fell into the tree tops whereas the horse missed the tree? Of course a tree has those nice soft, bending limbs that never break & jab holes or anything.
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Post by CraigC on Jan 13, 2016 11:09:13 GMT -5
I thoroughly enjoyed it! Of course, I go in knowing that it's a Hollywood movie and those are never going to be technically perfect. Nor are they going to be 100% historically accurate. I know that it has to be retold as a movie and that most the people going to see it, don't know the difference between a flintlock and a caplock, a Brown Bess and an American long rifle.
All things considered, it told a hell of a story and I see now reason why it has to compete with Jeremiah Johnson or The Mountain Men. Movies such as these are like my guns. I don't choose between them, I love them all!
PS, Glass fell through the tree, the horse hit a rock.
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Post by ericp on Jan 13, 2016 13:02:54 GMT -5
I enjoyed the movie as well. I wish they had not said it was based on the story of Hugh Glass, as it was a VERY loose interpretation. Kept on getting frustrated with things until I decided to get over it and enjoy it for what it was, a mountain man story adapted to be palatable to a large audience. The cinematography was great but I couldn't make out much of the dialogue, needed subtitles. Rather have movies like this being made than another romantic comedy or some such.
Eric
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Post by Woodrow F Call on Jan 15, 2016 19:47:40 GMT -5
I was disappointed.... entirely because of how much they strayed from the book to make things more dramatic... as if the story wasn't dramatic enough.
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Post by magnumwheelman on Jan 17, 2016 11:26:30 GMT -5
Went last night
Bloodiest movie I've seen in a long time
Did notice the double fireing of the single shots a couple times
Most noticeable was the pistol from the horse chase scene
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Post by axel on Jan 17, 2016 17:39:58 GMT -5
Couldn't be worse than Josh Randle fanning the hammer for multiple shots from his chopped down Winchester Model 92 loaded with what we are supposed to believe are 45:70 cartridges.
Same old Hollywood!
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Post by caryc on Jan 17, 2016 18:37:36 GMT -5
Couldn't be worse than Josh Randle fanning the hammer for multiple shots from his chopped down Winchester Model 92 loaded with what we are supposed to believe are 45:70 cartridges. Same old Hollywood! I watched the series when it first ran on TV. I don't ever remember him fanning that gun. It's running again on METV so I'm watching it again hoping to catch that episode. It just sounds like such a huge blunder that one really wonders how they could actually do that. Surely McQueen would know that it was impossible in reality.
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Post by nolongcolt on Jan 17, 2016 18:52:06 GMT -5
Remember in The Rifleman, when Lucas always spun the 92 to fire it with the trip lever. Trouble is he spun the thing a lot of times just to warn or threaten, but the gun didn't go off. So how does that work? It would have to go off every time he spun it, unless it was unloaded. I still watch the re runs every Saturday morning.
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Post by contender on Jan 17, 2016 19:19:58 GMT -5
I agree that most of the "older" westerns had many flaws. But after a few decades of folks laughing at hollyweird for such stuff,,,,, they have been a lot better in more modern times. Until Revenant.
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