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Post by goodtime on Feb 10, 2015 1:10:57 GMT -5
One moral of this story for those of us who are firearm instructors is to be sure to educate all trainees of mishaps like squib loads and hangfires, and to recommend a waiting period of no less than 60 second consisting of holding the muzzle downrange after experiencing a hangfire. This might seem excessive, but it's no skin off our backs to merely ADVISE of the possibilities, no matter how remote, and to train instructees to accomodate the most remote possibilities.
On the other hand, when a ten million-to-one incident like this occurs (or is claimed to have occurred) on our watch, or subsequent to our watch after having instructed a documented trainee, the instructor might be held liable if the trainee can demonstrate (or claim) that the instructor advised too short a time frame to safely account for a hangfire in a situation in which the trainee - as a direct result of training or lack thereof - suffered injury as a direct result of a hangfire that ignited within a claimed period that is shorter than the one instructed (or failed to be instructed.)
I fully understand that this is the same mentality as that which led to the warning labels being printed on firearm barrels. However, as my mother advised me "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." It takes no skin off our backs merely to advise, and therefore to protect ourselves.
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Post by nitro577 on Feb 10, 2015 8:15:12 GMT -5
That piece of the cylinder in Todd's photo landed about five feet from me. About 30 feet, maybe a little more, from where it happened.
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Post by bobwright on Feb 10, 2015 11:02:25 GMT -5
Incidentally, in all of this palaver, a good point is made regarding polishing media being left in the case, even stuck in the flash hole. For this reason I clean my fired brass first, before doing any de-capping/resizing process. The decapping pin will dislodge any stuck media.
Bob Wright
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Post by magnumwheelman on Feb 10, 2015 11:42:46 GMT -5
but Bob... then your primer pockets are all dirty I wet tumble mine, then thoroughly inspect them... along this same train of thought though... I found that piece of plastic dynamo label inside a 223 case, trying to shake out the stainless pins, I'd already decapped the brass... obviously in pistol brass an obstruction would be more obvious... but a primer pocket that barely got punched might have the same effect... also some powders require a hotter primer & higher pressure to burn properly... I'd guess if the primer were damaged, it "could" cause an incomplete or delayed burn
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Post by sixshot on Feb 10, 2015 13:26:59 GMT -5
I'm with Bob, I clean my brass, then deprime the case, don't want any tumbling media left in the flash hole.
Dick
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Post by buckheart on Feb 11, 2015 6:36:56 GMT -5
I'm with Bob, I clean my brass, then deprime the case, don't want any tumbling media left in the flash hole. Dick Same here too. After depriming I run them through the primer pocket brush that is on the drill press. No dirty primer pockets. If you don't clean them this is what you get.
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